Tuesday 20th July

[adesmith]

Its the first proper day of the holidays for me, as its my first day at home. We had a lovely long weekend with my Mum in Torquay and the weather was glorious. Using our National Trust membership we visited Killerton House and Greenway. I particularly enjoyed Greenway which was the holiday home of Agatha Christie. There was a real atmosphere about the place and it is a beautiful house. We also spent a couple of hors on the beach at Goodrington, trying out our new 'shorty' wetsuits.

Off to Cornwall at the weekend so lots to do this week. The garden needs a really good sort out (which we are going to do in a minute) and I need to get organised and make a list of things to do. This includes things about the house and also work that I need to do for school. Most of the school work I will leave until after Cornwall but I am going through Threshold this year and I have to evidence what a good teacher I am and fill in a big form. I want to get that more or less finished before we go away - one less thing to worry about.

The weather is a bit overcast but I am hoping that it will be dry enough to mow the lawn later.

[Kath Mulligan]

Are you staying in your usual place in Cornwall next week, Adrian? Bet you're all getting very excited at the prospect now. I was counting up the other day, it's 9 weeks until my Norfolk holiday and in sixteen weeks time I too shall be in Cornwall! I am thrilled at the thought of that in one way because it's always good to be in Cornwall, but it also will mean that we are back to the long dark evenings again and almost back to winter.

I need to get out into my garden today too. The weeds seem to be getting bigger by the minute now they have had a bit of rain on them and the slugs and snails have re-emerged too after the rain. I was out with the salt pot about 10.30 last night and got quite a haul of leaf-munching culprits. Now I have to go and dispose of the bodies! I'm also going to sow a few parsnip seeds in a pot and see what happens. It's really far too late for sowing them this year, that should have been done in April/May, but I thought I'd have a go since the plants can be left overwinter in the garden until you are ready to pull them for eating. Just so long as we don't have a repeat of last winter, otherwise they will be so far buried under the snow that I shall have to wait until Spring to harvest them! I'm also going to sow a few spring onion seeds too in a large pot. Apparently they only take about 7-8 weeks until ready to harvest and we love them in a stir fry.

Kath

[jane jackson]

Very foggy here first thing so Rosie and Jessie couldn't see the gulls on Long Rock beach unless they were close to them. The helicopter wouldn't have been flying and the trip on the Scillonian wouldn't provide many views but it does seem a bit better now. I didn't go out with salt last night but still picked up about 30 tiny pinkish slugs this morning on the lawn moving towards my plants, yesterday was about the same. At least the lilies and fuschias don't mind the rain with their wax like flowers.

With the sun not shining I'm going to try to have a tidy up in the paper department today having spent such a lot of time gardening recently.

You'll have a lovely week Adrian with all the anticipation of your Cornish holiday. I would love to visit Greenway sometime and Fowey is somewhere we've yet to go to for the Daphne DuMaurier connection.

Your garden is doing very well Kath. We haven't had much success with carrots or parsnips but the runner beans are nearly ready to pick and we've frozen quite a few packets of peas. Broad beans have finished now, we only had one short row to see if we could fit them in but they worked well so will repeat them. Courgettes are easy but I get a bit fed up with them even with black pepper on but Bryan enjoys them as do our neighbours. Bryan's working his way through the mackerel that Penny and her son caught on their fishing trips while they were visiting.

[Kath Mulligan]

How very frustrating for Rosie and Jessie, not being able to see the gulls!! Frustrating too for the Scillonian passengers if they weren't able to watch the coastline go by. It was like that for us last time Vin and I went over but fortunately it had cleared by the time we came back so I got to see Dorminack and the Minack Theatre from the sea.

The slugs I slaughtered last night were not the tiny variety, Jane, these were the big fat brown and orange monstrosities that had decided that the leaves of my dwarf French beans looked decidedly tasty. Since it is my third attempt this year at growing these beans, I am determined that they are not going to destroy these plants.

Bryan working his way through the mackerel reminded me of my very first holiday in Cornwall when I was about 16. Mum, Dad, my brother and I stayed in a caravan at Mawgan Porth and Dad and Mike went mackerel fishing from Mevagissey one day. They came back with quite a haul and Mum wondered what on earth she was supposed to do with them because this was the mid-Sixties and the caravan didn't boast such a luxury as a fridge, let alone a freezer! Her solution was to send Mike and me knocking on doors of the other caravans on the site asking if anyone would like some freshly caught mackerel for tea! There was a very strong smell of frying fish all around the site that evening!

Kath

[gloria townsin]

Great caravanning memories Kath.......I did love our caravan it gave us so much freedom when the boys were small, one week on the South Coast of Cornwall and one week on the North. We did have a fridge though.....now the caravans are so luxurious. I would quite like a motor home but Eddie says they are too much hassle unless you tow a car as the motor home is your only source of transport once at the destination. I doubt we will have either now though.
Adrian I think I will miss you this time round.......our youngest son Matt has to have an epidural injection on the 29th and has to have someone with him for two days. Now that is only just over a week away so I doubt I will be down during your holiday unless you are there for two weeks. Let me know if you are as there is a chance that if all goes well with Matt we will take off down there taking him with us. I hope my baskets and planters are o.k. until I return, the fish have a block to keep them fed during our time away.
I miss Bryher so much when I'm not there.......a viewing tomorrow so who knows?
My sisters birthday today!! I always felt she had a better deal with her birthday being in the summer.....

[Kath Mulligan]

Happy birthday to Judith. Must admit I like having a June birthday, it splits the year up nicely between Christmas and summer. Hope the injection works for Matt and that it gives him some relief. I'm sure some recuperation time at Bryher would be very welcome to him.

Our caravan at Mawgan Porth was a large static one, not a tourer. It was in the days when there was no insulation on the walls or roof, it was literally like living in a tin can - boiling hot during the day, freezing cold at night!! To keep milk from going sour we had to put the bottles in a bucket of cold water under the sink out of the sun. The water had to be fetched in buckets from a tap across the site - that was mine and Mike's job, and the loos were also in a block across the far side of the site set in some sand dunes. It was a very hot fortnight when we were there so you got your feet scorched in the hot sand during the day, then at night it was so cold that it felt wet.

Vin and I fancied having a motorhome too. There is a huge sales depot, Brownhills, just off the A1 near Newark that we used to visit sometimes to indulge our daydreams of owning one of the luxury beasts. Our plan was to take off for weeks at a time once we had both retired, travelling around the country, stopping anywhere that took our fancy, and visiting all the National Trust homes and gardens that we could find. Sadly that dream was not to be realised. I do agree with Eddie though, I certainly wouldn't fancy trying to negotiate one around some of the narrow Cornish lanes. We have often seen people towing a small car behind them on the motorway, but again that always looks quite awkward to me, especially if you have to negotiate narrow lanes with both motorhome and towed car to get to your destination.

Good luck with tomorrow's viewing. I take it that the woman who was coming for her third viewing hasn't come up trumps?

Kath

[jane jackson]

Yes very good luck with the viewing Gloria. Also hope the injection does the trick for Matt and you all enjoy some more time at Bryher.

I've never stayed in a caravan, only used one for being Secretary at a Horse Show! Didn't enjoy towing the first one I tried as it wasn't the same as a horse trailer having only the 2 wheels instead of 4, made such a difference. I used to have a weekend camping at Bognor with a friend and her parents many years ago but that was reasonably luxurious as they put rugs down, had a TV which worked off a battery and her Mum did all the cooking and the sun was always shining!

I have a friend who has a Motorhome which she is brilliant at manouvering but she doesn't use it as much as she thought she would. I think the problem always is the one of not being able to leave it on site and have a vehicle to drive around in.

[Janet Swan]

Don't mention gardening to me!!! This morning, I decided to clear some (deceased) opium poppies under the front window of my house, collect the seeds, and put in place a couple of bricks in the hope that the window cleaner would decide to stand on them rather than crushing anything growing there under his big boots!!!

All was going well, but the border did look rather bare, so carried round a couple of pots of plants from the back garden to temporarily fill the space. Rather than take them through the house, I carried each one down the garden, along the back alley of the neighbours' gardens, past the garage block, down the side of nextdoor, then up my garden path. One pot, a lovely terracotta one I've had for years and which gets planted up three times a year depending on the season, was particularly heavy. I made it to the border under the window, then it slipped out of my hands, clipped the bricks and broke into several pieces scattering plants, compost, crocks etc. widely!!!

I came in at that point, for lunch and 'Loose Women'!!! Subsequently, the plants have been put in a plastic trough and the compost and crocks cleared up - but, oh, I'm going to miss that pot. Had it for years and it was a really good quality one ... oh well, I suppose I should be grateful I didn't drop it on my foot!!!

Janet

[gloria townsin]

Oh No Janet!! I would have been saying some rude words and probably been in tears if it was a treasured pot..........but you had to carry it a long way and being full I'm not surprised you dropped it. I was waiting for you to say you now had a terrible backache........ I put some poppy pics in my album with you in mind, they were so pretty for a few days until they dropped, the ones in the back garden I missed altogether - within a fortnight they had been and gone.

Had to smile at the tin can reference Kath........the early caravans were not much more than that I agree. Two of my friends had a short time of owning a Winnebago and a Scout (one each that is!).....they were amazing vehicles, the left hand drive would put me off straight away though. My friend who is now in Spain had a nice motorhome though and I loved driving it but I also loved driving my horseboxes, didn't ever like towing. I took Matthew and his Sec A to a BSPS show at Knebworth (British Show Pony Society).......we had a nice little trailer at the time and Eddie was working, so off I set with smallish child, smallish pony and the livery yard owners 13 year old daughter. Some joker had turned the direction sign round and off I went down an ever narrowing lane.........I soon discovered I was on the wrong road but what to do, the lane was too narrow to turn in. At last and several miles down the lane I came to a small cross roads, I couldn't turn completely so had to do a bit of reversing......and that's when I realised I couldn't reverse while towing without sending the trailer in the wrong direction. Eventually and with much forward a foot and back a foot I turned and we found our way to the venue. It had been pouring with rain the night before and everywhere was muddy and slippy. The parking chap started pointing towards a space which I immediately saw I had to reverse into........Gina's advice was, 'do what Mum does, get out of the car and ask the nearest man to park it for you,' so I did!!

[Gill Bilcliffe]

A word or warning about lifting heavy terracotta pots. A few years ago I managed to give myself a hernia followed by an operation after lifting a very heavy terracotta pot. These days I drag the heavy pots along or roll them.

On the subject of caravans I adore them and wish we had either a caravan or campervan. We do have a tent but that is not quite the same. Before moving to Norwich we decided to buy a motorhome and go off into the sunset wherever the mood took us ~ old age travellers! Opt out of normality as we knew it and see what is out there. Needless to say that did not come about due to opting for what we know best so here we are living quite contently in East Anglia. But maybe one day...........

[jane jackson]

Oh dear Janet what a shame especially when it was a favouite pot but just think of the mess if you'd dropped it in the house! If you'd had it for years it had probably become brittle without you realizing it. Hope Loose Women cheered you up. I didn't see it today but I do enjoy it.

I used to love reversing the trailer with my Land Rover and had it off to a fine art but these days I can't seem to even park the Polo in a straight line. When we moved here it took me ages to park decently outside the house as there's a slight curve in the road. I blame it on my back and not being able to keep looking behind me so easily nowadays ~ excuse really. Mnd you with the gardening I've been doing over the last few days ~ yes and moving heavy pots, mostly by dragging or pushing~ I'm finding I can bend down to work and stay down ok but getting back up is painful. When I nearly get upright my muscles seem to go into a spasm and I have to stand in that position until it eases and then I can carry on. Oh dear, all that lifting of horse feed and hay and straw bales is catching up with me but it was so much fun at the time.

[adesmith]

Sorry about your pot Janet! The times that I have done that but fortunately not with anything too precious - still annoying though. Hope that you can find a replacement.

We have actually been talking about caravans over the past couple of months. The bungalow that we use in the summer may not be available forever and so we were thinking about different affordable options. It would have to wait until we have a bigger car though. I keep getting emails from the estate agent and there are lots of those small holiday chalets and houses on the market. They look really quite nice and seem quite reasonable. Probably a bit beyond our means though.

Gloria, we are actually in Cornwall for two weeks. We leave on Sunday and come back two weeks later. So we may get to see you. Hope that Matts injection etc goes well.

Kath, yes we are staying in the usual bungalow in Carbis Bay. In fact Rachel asked today if we could rent it for two nights, 19th and 20th March (I hope that they are the right dates). They will confirm in January as they usually do but seemed like it would be okay.

Jane, the anticipation of coming down to Cornwall is wonderful! We have been chatting, talking and planning and now its only a few days away! Hope that the weather picks up a little bit as we would like a few days on the beach.

Tidied the garden. I was going to harvest my potatoes but when I dug down there were a few very tiny ones. Thought I should leave it although in theory they should be ready by now. They are leaning everywhere so I was hoping to tidy up a bit.

[Kath Mulligan]

Janet, so sorry to hear about the accident with your pot, but very glad it was only the pot that got broken and not your foot!

My gardening had to be put on hold after all as the rain arrived, nowhere near as bad here as it has been in the rest of our region though. Watching North West Tonight on BBC earlier there has been severe flooding in many parts of Liverpool, Merseyside, Cheshire and Lancashire with the rain due to spread north to Cumbria this evening. It's tipping down here at the moment, and we have just had a couple of rumbles of thunder. Ironic that there should be all this flooding and we are still subject to a hosepipe ban because of drought - not that there is much need for assisted watering at present!!

The first root of my early potatoes were like yours, Adrian - tiny marbles, but they are now bulking out a bit and we have had some reasonable sized ones. I should think that they will have grown even more by the weekend now we have had all the rain. The foliage is looking untidy though on mine too, flopping all over the place and dying off on some of the Maris Peers, which means that they are ready for harvesting. I did manage to harvest some more peas before the rains came so we have had them for tea tonight.

According to the weatherman tonight we could be seeing a return to more settled conditions by weekend, so hopefully that will come just in time for your holiday, Adrian. I hope you get some good weather and a real relaxing break to recharge your batteries after this rather stressful year at school.

Gloria, I did laugh at Gina's advice about parking the trailer! I should have done much the same! In fact, it was a bit of a joke between me and Vin when I first started driving again because we have no offroad parking so have to park wherever we can on the street. Because there are so many of us with one or more cars per household, parking can often be quite tight and reverse parking was one thing I really struggled with when I was having driving lessons - by some miracle the best reverse park I did during the full course of lessons was the one I had to do on my test! Think it must have been sheer adrenaline that made me succeed! Anyway, I often used to struggle to park when I got home from work and many a time I would phone Vin (from just a few feet outside the house) and ask him to come and park for me! I'm glad to say that practice has made me much better now, but I doubt I could ever get to grips with reversing and parking a trailer as well.

Kath

[gloria townsin]

Reversing into a parking space used to be so easy for me, could almost do it without looking...........then I got my cumuppance when I was coming to the end of my 50's......all of a sudden I couldn't seem to do it anymore. Really lost my nerve with it all, which is when I sold my Ford estate and got the Berlingo, sitting up higher seemed to help me and my KA at Bryher is a doddle, just love driving it. Another feature of my conversation with Patricia today.....I think age has something to do with parking becoming difficult.

And Yes Jane I do think the stacking of hay and straw bales, lifting wet haynets and tying them up, hanging on to a horse that's feeling bright and breezy on new grass, does have it's pay back time.

[Gill Bilcliffe]

We also have a Bertie Berlingo. He has been with us now for seven years and what a good car (I dare I prompt fate) he is. The bodywork is still as good as the day we bought him and everything else seems to works well. The Berlingo was bought for the touring adventure I mentioned in an earlier post. After giving up the idea of a motorhome a caravan was decided apon so long came Bertie. As that idea faded away Bertie remains as part of the family. As for me driving him sadly I don't. After driving for many years I developed an ear problem nine years ago which affected my balance and hearing so I decided to stop driving till the vertigo eased. When it did I then found I had lost my confidence to go out onto the roads again. Feel the fear and do it anyway ~ I wish I could!! :car:

[Kath Mulligan]

Gill, it may be worth your while booking just a short course of driving lessons to help you regain your confidence - not to retake your test obviously, but just to have someone impartial in the car with you to help you overcome the nerves. I first passed my test when I was 21 but on my first solo outing in my dad's car, a Wolseley 1660 which was so heavy it was like driving a bus, I managed to get the handbrake stuck on as I was queueing on a steep hill to turn right. Try as I might I could not get the wretched thing off and the line of traffic behind me started honking their horns - all men I must add! Nowadays I should probably jump out of the car and soundly berate them and invite one of them to help me, but back then I was a shy little flower and was mortified with embarrassment. Eventually I did manage to free the offending article and drove home, flung the car keys on the table and announced that I was never getting behind the wheel again. For many years I didn't drive at all. After I married Vin we only had the one car and whenever we went out we were always together so he drove. It wasn't until I was about to start working full time again that I decided to drive again. I realised that public transport around here isn't always conducive to getting you to work on time unless you work in the Manchester area, and where I was planning to work in Adlington, although only 12 miles from here, would have meant two buses and a long walk at both ends. After so many years I had to start again from scratch, so booked a course of lessons and retook my test, then bought my own little Kia Pride. Then I realised what I had been missing all those years. Having the independence to be able to go off somewhere without having to ask Vin to take me was wonderful, and it also meant that I was able to share the driving with him if we went off on holiday. Since he died it has made me even more grateful that I did decide to learn again, otherwise I should have really struggled.

Anyway, didn't mean to go off at a tangent like that, it was just a suggestion that a few lessons might help you to regain your confidence.

Kath

[jane jackson]

I think you were very brave Kath in starting to drive again much later on in life. I was 17 when I learnt and was driving my Dad and I to work in Watford (10 mile journey with lots of queuing traffic) from almost the word go which really helped me pass my test quickly. Better experience than just driving on traffic free roads really and in those days I had plenty of confidence ~ and there wasn't the amount of traffic about them either or so many confusing road signs and one way streets.

Our neighbour in Berkhamsted was in her early 40s before her husband would "let" her learn to drive although she used to move the cars around the drive for said husband and son. We had a small private service road at the bottom of our drives so she was legal to do that. Once she'd learnt and passed her test she was away and even drove in Florida where they had a house and ended up driving for their Private Chauffeur Car Service which mainly took business people to the airport or conference centres. I've never driven abroad and certainly wouldn't contemplate it nowadays.

I fancied a Berlingo when we moved here as they seem to everywhere but in the end decided it might be a bit big and stuck to the Polo which we've been very happy with but I still like the Berlingo. Good luck Gill if you decide to take Kath's advice, I would certainly miss the freedom if I couldn't drive which is a very good reason why I never drink and drive, to lose my license would be terrible apart from any damage I might inflict. As I don't drink very much anyway I often think even a small glass of wine might affect me more than other folk who are used to it.

[Kath Mulligan]

Same here Jane with regard to drinking and driving. Whatever the legal limit, I know that my own personal tolerance level is much lower so if I am driving I never have any alcohol at all. Even one glass of wine is enough to affect my judgement and two would make my head swim!

Don't think I was particularly brave to start driving again when I was older, Jane because I had a lot more self confidence by then than when I was in my early twenties. I was also much less concerned about what other people thought about me! By then I had adopted the attitude of "take me or leave me". If people like me then fine, if they don't, well I can live with it. Maybe that is one of the benefits of getting older (well, there have got to be some, haven't there, to compensate for all the aches and pains, and everything going south!!)

Kath

[gloria townsin]

Your 'Bertie' should meet my 'Betty' who has had one trip to Mullion so far, we usually go in Eddie's estate as it holds more. Can't remember why we took Betty on that one occasion. Oddly enough I had my first driving lessons when I was 18, quickly discovered Eddie was not the person to teach me (I remember getting out of the car while it was on a steep hill and telling him to drive if he didn't want me practising a hill start!) so I went to good old BSM which was one of the few driving schools at the time. My lessons were all round Watford while they were completely remodelling the roads by the Town Hall and Hempstead Road (do you remember that Jane or maybe you were too young at the time) anyway, the roads changed daily as it was a huge job........I knew I wasn't ready to take my test but the instructor persuaded me to have a go......I failed and it was such an awful experience that I didn't begin driving again until I was about 28. My reason for that was with two small children and the doctor a good walk away all along a busy road, (the Ricky to Watford one - Jane will know) and Jeff was a very chesty bronchial baby so one way or another I always seemed to be walking with the pram and a three year old on cold winter evenings, so I thought right get down to it and this time, probably because there was greater need and I was older, I passed first go.
I do think you lose confidence as you get older and a refresher set of driving lessons could well get you back mobile Gill. I also hate to not have my own wheels which is why 'Katie KA' came into my life last year, she lives in Cornwall, lucky girl, and I love driving her. She is quite a fast car as for size the engine is big. I can get the dogs with their travel cages in the back and, other than we have a B&Q trip whilst there, we use it to run around, she gets through all the tiny lanes and I am confident I will be able to park her when we get to our destination. Not sure who will win the battle of who stays when we finally move to Cornwall as Betty is so useful and I would like Eddie to replace his Jag which is not a car to haul stuff around in, and I love Katie for her nippiness. Betty is diesel and is so economical. Gerald and Jenny have one as do John and Mim. Think about having another go Gill. I can't sniff a glass of wine without feeling merry so I never ever would drink and drive. Oddly though I had quite a craving for a bottle of sweet white wine (no taste as you can tell - give me a glass of Lambrusco and I'm quite content) when we were last at Bryher. Maybe it was the sunshine.

[jane jackson]

Yes Gloria I well remember sitting in long queues along the Hempstead Road trying to either get into work at Watford or going home. In those days I didn't have a radio in my vehicle either so very boring as well as frustrating. I was so happy when I transferred to Abbots Langley as I could use the magic roundabout at Hemel Hempstead and go the back way in and out ~ so easy. When I transferred to Chorleywood in 1977 my journey was even better as I could miss out Chesham completely and just use the country lanes and then when I left the Bank and went to the Primary School at Great Gaddesden it was only a 10 minute drive all on country roads ~ bliss!

[Gill Bilcliffe]

Thank you all for your encouragement in restoring my confidence on the driving issue. Funny but I have just renewed my licence so my intention must be there to drive again. I would take refresher lessons. I believe the police do these lessons for older drivers? John would be more than grateful for me to take the wheel now and then as I am an excellent back seat driver!

I passed my test when I was 21 with the help of BSM and cannot believe how I have let my driving skills slide with the fear I have created for myself. Alcohol is not a problem as I gave that up too for health reasons.

Gill

[pauline]

Gill, I must add that I was never a confident driver but managed but then lost my confidence and havn't driven for 15yrs. I had another go when we moved here (very rural) but sadly I lack the courage. Perhaps if I had a small automatic things would be better.

Get back in the driving seat and have a go. I really regret not driving as there have been times when it would have been most helpful. Good luck!

[Linda]

I adore caravans too! and campervans...always always wanted a VW Camper!! Theya re very fashionable today and people are buying them from across the world and doing them up...perfect for Cornish lanes!!

[adesmith]

A student teacher from school was renting a VW Camper and touring Cornwall with his friends. Sounded fun but I would imagine it was a bit 'cosy' with four lads crammed in one of those!

[gloria townsin]

Our eldest son had a VW Camper...........it got left here with a friend when he left for America......have no idea what happened to it after that.

[jane jackson]

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Gloria, we are actually in Cornwall for two weeks. We leave on Sunday and come back two weeks later. So we may get to see you. goes well.

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Jane, the anticipation of coming down to Cornwall is wonderful! We have been chatting, talking and planning and now its only a few days away! Hope that the weather picks up a little bit as we would like a few days on the beach.

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Have a wonderful Cornish holiday Rachel, Adrian and Rupert with lots of swimming in the sea. Look forward to hearing all about it on your return.

[gloria townsin]

If you've still got our number at Bryher Adrian, give us a ring during the second week of your holiday, if you are at a loose end that is, if no answer you will know we didn't make it down yet. So much depends on how Matt is after the injection.

[adesmith]

Thanks Gloria and Jane. We are spending the day getting ready, cleaning the house, tidying the garden, shopping and packing. I am off out with the Monmouthshire Antiquarians tomorrow afternoon so I have to be doubley organised! Really looking forward to it though and we are certainly ready for a break.

Think I still have your number Gloria. Will check and pm you if not. I am sure that we will be spending a day (or two) on the Lizard and so we can pop in and say hello on our way back. Jane, make sure that you look out for us - you know what we look like now! We will, I am sure, be visiting Porthcurno and I am determined this summer to visit Trengwainton and lsee all of the agapanthus on the terrace. Two wonderful weeks :)

[Gill Bilcliffe]

Friends have a VW campervan. There are just the two of them and two spaniel dogs. They seem to manage fine in their camper without an awning and elevated roof. Although I would want a little more room if I had two dogs in the van with me especially when it is raining!

I spotted a tiny campervan yesterday think it was a Fiat. It did have an elevated roof which would give height. The van is the same size as our Berlingo. One to consider but then John would have to part with Bertie. Think he would rather part with me!!!

Gill

[Janet Swan]

Ooooh, have a lovely, lovely holiday, Adrian, Rachel and Rupert. Looking forward to hearing all about it when you return. Have fun!

Janet

[Kath Mulligan]

I spotted a tiny campervan yesterday think it was a Fiat. It did have an elevated roof which would give height. The van is the same size as our Berlingo. One to consider but then John would have to part with Bertie. Think he would rather part with me!!!

Gill

This did make me chuckle, Gill!

Kath

[jane jackson]

Me too! Bryan would feel the same about his Rough Collie Rosie!!!!!!!!!!!